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(PLEASANT MUSIC DRIFTING)

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(BIRDS CHIRPING)

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I can't find it, Daddy,
I've looked EVERYWHERE!

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All right, don't worry,
we'll find it in the morning.

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I've got another one here.

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Ready?

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Stand by.

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Four, three, two, one...

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Fire! (SHOT)

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Oh, I'm sorry, it's no good.

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It's over there
in that flowerbed somewhere.

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The glorious spectacle
of The Dam Busters
begins in the spring of 1942

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in a pretty cottage
under a silver sky

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where a bespectacled man
is playing marbles

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with his children.

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How unassuming, how very British...

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Based on real events,

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the 1955 epic is considered
one of the most complex, rousing

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and realistic of war movies.

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Would you say it has a legacy
as a sort of historical document?

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And I mean in the sense of
what we understand and know
of that whole mission,

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Operation Chastise,

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really comes from the film.

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I mean, I think you could argue

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that it's probably
the most useful film
to understand World War Two overall

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because this was a war

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that was fought through
technological innovation
and mechanical production,

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coupled with suitable intelligence

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and the odd daring feat, you know?

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I mean, this was a war
where the industrial power
of the two different sides

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was critical.

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(ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC)

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(CONTINUES)

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(FADES)

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The man in question
is the brilliant and eccentric
aircraft engineer

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Barnes Wallis,

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played with strange nobility
by Michael Redgrave.

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Rather than a game,

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he is figuring out
how to get a marble
to skim along a tub of water

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and hit a specific target.

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He has already dreamed up
his miraculous bouncing bomb.

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(SIGHS) Watch it, Christopher.

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Four, three, two, one...

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Fire! (SHOT)

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Fire, that's good!

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Mark it, Mary!

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Barnes Wallis
was an engineer and inventor

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who began work
in the shipping industry, in fact.

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He was trained as an engineer,

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he got a degree in engineering.

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Clearly, it was in his blood

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and he started to work

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basically sort of improving
on various elements in shipping.

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Very quickly, he decided
that he preferred aviation.

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He was very, very gifted

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in terms of finding new ways
of constructing
all kinds of machinery

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and especially plane fuselages
that were lighter and stronger.

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In fact, he invented
the geodesic structure

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which made that the bombers
and the planes that were flying

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in this construction

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were far lighter and less likely
to actually suffer material damage.

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Do you know how much water it takes
the Germans to make a ton of steel?

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Haven't the least idea.
One hundred tons.

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Now, just look at this.

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The whole of this great arsenal
of war factories in the Ruhr

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depends for its water
on three enormous dams.

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The Mohne, the Eder and the Sorpe.

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Directed with documentary poise
and understated emotion
by Michael Anderson,

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The Dam Busters
is a film in two halves.

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In the first,
we follow Wallis' attempts to prove
his ingenuous bomb will work.

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In the second
comes the mission itself

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led by the dashing
Wing Commander Guy Gibson,

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played by Richard Todd
in a monument to un-showy valour.

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Tell me a little bit about
the real history of The Dam Busters,

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the famous Operation Chastise.

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Operation Chastise
was a British operation

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to try to destroy...

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Well, to at least cripple

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large parts
of the German industrial machine,
which was based in the Ruhr Valley,

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where they had coalmines,

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steelworks,

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uh, and they were supplied
by three or four significant dams
for electric power

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and to hold back the waters
of the river,

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the Ruhr River.

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The idea was that
if you destroyed these dams

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you would cripple
German industrial production

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and that would delay
all sorts of things

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from armaments manufacture
to development of new weapons.

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And it was seen really...

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Actually almost from the beginning
of the Second World War
as an important operation.

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The problem was
the technology wasn't there
to hit a dam.

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The Germans had prepared against it
with nets to prevent torpedoes.

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Conventional bombs
would run the risk of not hitting
the dam at all,

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so the British had to work out a way
of getting a bomb up against the dam

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to blow the dam apart

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and that was...

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It was as much a technical feat
of engineering invention

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as it was
a feat of flying expertise.

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In the end,

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what happened
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came up with what we now know
as the bouncing bomb,

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which was a cylindrical bomb
with a particular kind of backspin

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which once it hit
the wall of the dam
would sink straight to the bottom

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and that's when
it would detonate its charge,

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which would mean that
the charge would go off
at the base of the dam.

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It would take more than one bomb
but they would eventually
blow the dam apart and release it

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so it was...

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We think of it as an
incredibly romantic adventure film

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but really it's a film and a story
about technical and engineering
expertise

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up against
a really complicated problem

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and then new ways
of delivering that payload.

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All set?
Yes, sir.

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Well, you've done a fine job
with this team.

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I couldn't have asked
for a better one.

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Good luck.
Thank you, sir.

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Good luck!

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(CAR DOOR CLOSES)

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Come on, then.

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(DOOR CLOSES)

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(REVVING)

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This is the tale
of two contrasting men

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who went beyond
what was required of them,

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a vision of the courage it took
to strike at the heart of the enemy

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in one of the most
unconventional missions
of World War Two

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by bouncing a bomb into three dams,

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devastating German industry
and turning the tide of the war.

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I had at the back of my mind

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the idea that while you couldn't
float anything along the surface,

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you couldn't tickle it
with an existing bomb of any kind

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and you couldn't float torpedoes
down towards it

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because of the netting,
which hung down...

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The only thing to do
is to make something which hopped

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so I made something which hopped!

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After a conversation
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who was a keen cricketer,

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he discovered that
if he put a backspin on the bomb

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then it would perform
exactly as he wanted it to.

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Now,
he put all these things together

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and that was an incredible
sort of feat of engineering
that had to be achieved,

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not just in terms of
the bomb itself

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but also
in the way it was delivered.

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The wonderful thing about this,
in terms of the film,

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is that you see this
in quite a lot of detail,

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the development of how
he actually managed to achieve this,

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the successes, the failures,

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it was a...

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It's like a sort of rhythm
that goes like this.

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You know
that he's going to achieve it

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because of course
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but the effort and the failures
in between

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are what gives the film
its suspense.

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And it all centres on
this figure of Barnes Wallis

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who was, let's say,
to put it politely,

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an eccentric gentleman!

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He was...

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I mean, he was a dedicated
aerodynamic engineer

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all of his life, really.

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He started off...

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His father was a GP but was ill.

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They lived in a state
of gentile distress, he said,

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so he became
an engineering apprentice,

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moved very quickly into
aircraft manufacture at Vickers

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and began work on the airships,
the R-80 and the R-100,

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and this is where he developed
what we would call
the geodesic design...

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But if you think about
the way an airship is designed,

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these struts
that are very, very firm,

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very strong,

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these lines that go from
one end of the airship to the other

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and then the outside of the airship
is covered in fabric.

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He moved that into bombers.

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So, if you think about it,
it features in the film, in fact,

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the Wellington bomber,
which is structured
much the same way.

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A very, very strong basis
for the fundamental structure
of the object.

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I mean, after the war,
he was involved in the aerodynamics
that would produce Concorde.

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He was very interested
in flow and strength

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and all these
sort of very nerdy details
about how minor things would work

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and how you could get
the best possible effect

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from the trickiest
little engineering adjustment.

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Yet, more than simply depicting
a fascinating episode
of military history,

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The Dam Busters is a meditation
on national identity
in the face of crisis,

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held aloft by one of the most
stirring scores ever written.

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I'll see what we can do.
Oh.

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Well, goodbye.
Goodbye.

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Goodbye.
Goodbye.

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Goodbye.

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And keep at it...
I think you've got something!

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(STIRRING MUSIC)

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(BLOWS)

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(SHOT)

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(TRUNDLING)

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Contact port outer!

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Contact port outer!

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(ENGINES CONTINUE AND FADE)

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In the vast tapestry
of World War Two,

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few missions stand out
like Operation Chastise.

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On the perfectly moonlit night
of May 16th 1943,

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the 617 Squadron of Lancasters

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took off from RAF Scampton
near Lincoln

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to bomb the Mohne,
Edersee and Sorpe Dams
in the Ruhr Valley

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using bouncing bombs
dropped from only 60 feet.

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Two of the dams were destroyed.

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Barnes Wallis and Guy Gibson
are very real heroes.

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(MUSIC PLAYING)

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The king and queen are welcomed
by Wing Commander Gibson

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while visiting The Dam Busters.

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His majesty congratulates
Australian Flight Lieutenant Martin,
who won the DSO.

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The queen has a word
with an American

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serving with the Canadian Air Force,

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Flight Lieutenant McCarthy,
another DSO winner.

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While Gibson's own Lancaster
stands majestically
in the background,

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the king meets members of the crews
of the special task force

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involved in the breaching
of the Mohne and Eder Dams.

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These men, hand-picked,
were withdrawn from Bomber Command

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to train in secret for this attack,
which had been long in prospect.

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Wing Commander Gibson
received the VC for his gallantry

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to add to
his four other decorations.

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The operation achieved its aim,

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in two ways, actually...

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It did destroy two of the dams
at least,

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they had slowed down the industry.

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Also, at the same time,

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it created a HUGE morale boost
for the British,

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which gave them sort of
added impetus to continuing the war.

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There was some criticism about it,

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that it wasn't
a wholehearted success,

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but...

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'Cause the Germans
did actually rebuild the dams
and were sort of back functioning,

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but it nonetheless...

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The actual operation
worked as well as it could
under the circumstances

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and did indeed slow down
the German war machine.

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Now, obviously,
in a romanticised sense,

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it makes for a great movie

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but in a historical sense
there's some debate about whether
the dam busting was successful,

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isn't there?

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Yes, I mean,
it was literally successful

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in that two of three dams
they set out to destroy
were destroyed.

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And the Ruhr Valley was flooded...

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What Barnes Wallis
and other people had hoped

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was that the RAF
would then carpet-bomb the area

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during the rebuilding

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but there's a figure in the film,
the head of bomber command,

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Bomber Harris,

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who really didn't hold
with this mission.

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In the film, he is shown as the guy
who backs the mission to the hilt

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in the face of opposition
from the ministry

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but, really,
he was not into low-flying.

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He was not into
this sort of derring-do.

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He thought the operation
was a waste of time.

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He thought
it was a great feat of flying
but he didn't follow up.

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So, the British
didn't bomb the valley

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and the Germans were able to
rebuild the dams in, you know,

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a number of months,
less than a year.

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The Germans themselves
were not as convinced
that the raid had been a failure.

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They were very, very dismayed by it.

254
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Albert Speer, after the war,

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talked about the damage
to the German industrial production.

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Significantly, it also meant that
a lot of people working
on the concrete emplacements

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for the D-Day landings

258
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to protect against
the Allied invasion

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had to be moved from the beaches
back to the Ruhr Valley
to rebuild the dams.

260
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So, that meant that the...

261
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When D-Day arrived,

262
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this was not
the intention of the raid

263
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but it meant that
when D-Day arrived
the defences there were weaker.

264
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It's sort of a success
of unintended consequences.

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It probably made the war shorter
but not in the way that was planned,

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in a sense.

267
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Now, there's a full moon tonight

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so normal ops are out.

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We'll be the only people flying

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and to avoid the fighters
we'll have to keep a zero beat

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all the way there and back.

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(COMMOTION)

273
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(ENGINE STARTS)

274
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With World War Two
such a rich source

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throughout the late '40s and '50s,

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The Dam Busters story
was an ideal subject.

277
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Howard Hawks had planned a version
with a script by Roald Dahl.

278
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Michael Balcon tried at Ealing.

279
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Producer Robert Clark
at the Associated
British Picture Corporation

280
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succeeded by convincing
both the Royal Air Force
and a sceptical Wallis

281
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that he would stay true
to the events.

282
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But it was a sort of symbolic
success

283
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and that's probably
one of the reasons
why it becomes a celebrated film!

284
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It was.

285
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They sent a Spitfire over
the following day

286
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just to try and film the success.

287
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I mean, this was the point at which
they were starting to use cameras
a lot in aircraft.

288
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Guy Gibson, one of
the central characters in the film,

289
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was obsessed with using cameras.

290
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He was very keen
on filming the raids,

291
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filming what was happening

292
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and they sent a Spitfire out to film
the damage that had been done

293
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and then the following day
the pictures were all over
the front pages of the newspapers

294
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and it was seen,
spiritually, within the UK,

295
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as a significant turning point
in the war

296
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and we took the fight
to heart of Germany.

297
00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,639
It was also very important
for two reasons with the Allies.

298
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Stalin at this point
was fighting on the Eastern Front

299
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and feeling VERY abandoned
by the West.

300
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,759
He was concerned that the Russians
were having to shoulder
the vast bulk of the war fighting

301
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,639
and the idea that the British
were at least doing something
mollified him a little,

302
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made him feel that
there was a genuine alliance there

303
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,359
and also in America...

304
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,519
The Americans
weren't particularly interested
in aerial bombardment,

305
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it was something
they didn't really see
the strategic significance of

306
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and it was after the raid...

307
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,799
Guy Gibson's publicity tour
of the United States

308
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was very, very important
in bringing the...

309
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,239
Not just public opinion round again
to the British way of doing things

310
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but also this idea of bombing
as being a critical part of the war,

311
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which, of course, in the end it was.

312
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Authenticity was everything.

313
00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,999
Screenwriter R.C. Sherriff,

314
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best known for his poignant
World War One play, Journey's End,

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drew from the historic account
by Paul Brickhill.

316
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,159
This remarkable Australian writer
had flown Spitfires

317
00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,719
and escaped from a German POW camp

318
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,759
and also wrote the book
that inspired The Great Escape

319
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,560
and To Serve Them All My Days.

320
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,559
And Sherriff
actually met with Wallis,

321
00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,919
who gave him a demonstration
of his home-made experiments.

322
00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,999
When you're ready!

323
00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,719
This should get our feet wet!

324
00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,760
Watch it...

325
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,120
Fire!

326
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(BOOMING)

327
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,759
(DEBRIS FALLING)

328
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,920
(TENSE BEAT)

329
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,159
Good heavens, that's wonderful!

330
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,399
Wonderful!

331
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,279
The person who really
made the film come to life

332
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,800
was an Australian journalist
called Paul Brickhill.

333
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,439
He had a rather extraordinary
early life.

334
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,359
He was a copyboy,
he went into journalism,

335
00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:32,519
he joined the
Australian Royal Air Force

336
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,239
during the war.

337
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,119
He became a prisoner of war
in Germany

338
00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:42,119
and it was while he was in
the prisoner of war camp in...

339
00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:44,319
In fact, it was Stalag III,

340
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,679
that he became involved
in an extraordinary escape plan.

341
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,519
The problem was that he,
during the course of this,

342
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,599
he was going to escape
with everybody else,

343
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,999
developed claustrophobia,

344
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,159
so he was left behind.

345
00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359
As he was left behind
and he was with a few
of the other lads

346
00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,239
who couldn't in fact
go on the plane,

347
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,319
they decided
that what they would do is...

348
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,279
They all had stories
about escape plans,

349
00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,239
that they write them down
on tiny little bits of paper

350
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,199
so the Germans wouldn't find them.

351
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,879
Finally, he was released
and he wrote a book
about his experiences

352
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,880
and it was called
The Great Escape.

353
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,759
Extraordinary success!

354
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,479
As that book came out,

355
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,959
or in the process of him
writing that book,

356
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,999
somebody approached him to say,

357
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,000
"Well, look, you know, we love this
so how about The Dam Busters story?"

358
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,279
He got immediately interested
in that

359
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,159
and so he was actually writing
almost the two books
simultaneously!

360
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,599
He'd sort of more or less finished
The Great Escape

361
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,520
but then he started to work
on The Dam Busters book.

362
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,439
Incredibly, at the same time
as The Dam Busters book came out,

363
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,879
Douglas Bader,

364
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,879
who was trying to write
his own biography

365
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,519
of being a sort of heroic figure
in the RAF,

366
00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,799
approached him and said,

367
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,879
"Will you write my autobiography?"

368
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,479
Extraordinarily enough,
he then wrote a third book
called Reach for the Sky

369
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,640
about Douglas Bader.

370
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,399
Director Michael Anderson
had only a handful of B-movies
to his name

371
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,119
but had worked alongside
Anthony Asquith and David Lean.

372
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:19,600
He had a reputation as a formidable
first assistant director.

373
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,599
Having served
with the Royal Corps of Signals,

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00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,599
his planning was meticulous

375
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,840
and his dedication to realism
such that he would send footage
to Wallis for his approval.

376
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,239
So, what is so extraordinary
about The Dam Busters?

377
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,639
It's virtually a docudrama

378
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,319
and you have all this vast amounts
of information and detail

379
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,159
and you needed a director
in Michael Anderson

380
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,679
who could pull it all together
and make it a compelling narrative!

381
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,039
Yes, Anderson
is a very interesting director.

382
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,599
By the time
The Dam Busters comes around,

383
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,719
he is building
a very strong reputation on set

384
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,160
but he hasn't yet found the material
to direct his great film.

385
00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,839
He had started off as an actor

386
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,959
then he moved into
assistant directing.

387
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,319
He was production manager,

388
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,759
he worked on In Which We Serve
with David Lean

389
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,119
and then war broke out

390
00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,239
and he was in
the Royal Signal Corps.

391
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,919
It's not clear what he did there,
but certainly part of that
is in comms.

392
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,759
It's not clear
whether he was filming.

393
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,479
And then he worked
with Peter Ustinov making films
in and around the war effort

394
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,159
and finally came out
and started working
on sort of neo-realist films.

395
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,599
There was a British film he made
called Waterfront,

396
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,999
which was about Liverpool
during the Depression,

397
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,479
which was very, very much
a sort of a precursor
to the Grim Up North films

398
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,919
of the sort of
the late '50s and '60s.

399
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,119
He wanted to do a very, very
realistic version of events.

400
00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:44,199
I mean, if you read about
what he did, in terms of realism,

401
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,239
it is...

402
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,359
It is extraordinary!

403
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,519
I mean,
he went to Wallis and said...

404
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,159
Showed him footage and said,
"Is this how it happened?"

405
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,919
They wanted to shoot
real Lancaster Bombers.

406
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,239
He even wanted to cast people
who looked exactly like
the real figures they played!

407
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,719
And of course,
they also used actual footage

408
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,599
from Barnes Wallis' test runs.

409
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,159
He shot footage
of the tests of the bomb

410
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,719
to persuade the ministry
and to persuade the RAF

411
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,479
and, uh, Michael Anderson
cut in the literal footage
from those tests into the film,

412
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,199
which is why
it's in black and white,

413
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,159
so that those bits of
real-life footage can be used.

414
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,279
Now,
these are the first dropping tests

415
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,440
at the Chesil Beach near Weymouth.

416
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,600
Here comes the Wellington.

417
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,239
Matt Summers is the pilot
and I'm working the release gear.

418
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,199
(WHIRRING)

419
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,000
Now, in a moment,
you'll see the bomb.

420
00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,160
There it goes... Now watch!

421
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,960
(WHIRRING CONTINUES AND FADES)

422
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:56,000
(ENGINE ROARING)

423
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800
Well, I suppose there's nothing much
we can do.

424
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,560
Except wait...

425
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600
The AOC's waiting
to take us back to Grantham.

426
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:28,599
(SEARCHING MUSIC)

427
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,079
Michael Redgrave
was an established star by 1955.

428
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,359
He had The Lady Vanishes
and The Browning Version behind him

429
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,039
and was lauded on stage.

430
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,240
He had also served
in the Royal Navy.

431
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,679
While he was a risky choice
for Wallis, being ten years younger,

432
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,559
Redgrave understood
that he was a reclusive genius

433
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,679
but with this unwavering belief
in his idea,

434
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,359
rolling up his trousers to retrieve
bomb test fragments from the sea

435
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:59,279
and staring down rooms
full of glowering civil servants...

436
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,599
The great thing about it
was of course that Redgrave
could act the part.

437
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,319
He was a superb actor,

438
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,439
one of the great lights
of the theatre.

439
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,919
And so, he took great care
in emulating

440
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879
without being a sort of
impersonating Barnes Wallis

441
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,319
in his sort of
slightly boffin-ish air...

442
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,159
But what he really had
was this determination,

443
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,679
this sort of drive
to solve any problem.

444
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,839
This was what it was,

445
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,559
it was an engineering problem
for him.

446
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:35,519
This is why the film
has such an extraordinary
level of intensity

447
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,479
at the beginning AND at the end

448
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,559
because he realised
that he was a man, a scientist,

449
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,759
whose sole purpose
at this particular time

450
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,759
is focused on solving

451
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,359
this incredibly difficult problem
of precision.

452
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,639
Anderson
was so committed to accuracy

453
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,879
that he wanted his actors
to resemble their real counterparts.

454
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,079
That was one of the reasons
that made Richard Todd
so perfect for Gibson,

455
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,720
he looked just like him!

456
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,679
He also happened to be on contract
at Associated British

457
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,959
following active service
as a captain
in the parachute regiment,

458
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,719
dropping into Normandy on D-Day,

459
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,280
something he replayed
in The Longest Day.

460
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,920
(SIGHS)

461
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,959
I'm afraid
I'm asking a great deal of you...

462
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,200
Do you think you can fly it
to those limits?

463
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,680
Well, it's hard to say off hand.

464
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,799
The altimeter is no good
at that level

465
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,919
but, well, they've given me
some of the best pilots
in the Air Force

466
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,359
so we'll see what we can do.

467
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,919
You haven't tested
the full-sized bomb yet, have you?

468
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,359
No, it's being assembled now.

469
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,079
I hope to try it
in a week or ten days.

470
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,239
Do you really mean
that a five-ton bomb
can bounce along the water

471
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,839
like a ping-pong ball?

472
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,239
It's been hard to persuade
some people that it will

473
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,959
but I've every reason to believe
it will behave exactly
like those miniatures.

474
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,439
Well, how far from the target
do we drop the bomb?

475
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,520
Ah, that's the third factor
that I'm afraid
requires absolute accuracy.

476
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,479
I've got a little more work to do
on it

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,919
but I think it'll be 600 yards.

478
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Did you invent this thing
out of your own head?

479
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,879
Well, yes, I...

480
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,920
I think I might say I invented it!

481
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,040
Well, I think it's terrific!

482
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,719
How would you describe the film?

483
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,439
Because it's not a documentary...

484
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,479
Somehow, Anderson has found a way
of making a very stirring,

485
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,999
a very passionate film

486
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,959
yet with this extraordinary
sort of British reserve.

487
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,439
Yes, it is, I think,
almost unlike any other war film

488
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,599
in that it's a film of two halves.

489
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,319
The first half is the individual
against the system film,

490
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,519
the one man, you know,
trying to get his idea across

491
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,879
against bureaucracy.

492
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,599
Sort of Kafkaesque in a sense
as he moves around the...

493
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,119
This is Barnes Wallis?
This is Barnes Wallis, yes.

494
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,239
This is Michael Redgrave
as Barnes Wallis,

495
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,319
moving around the corridors
of Whitehall,

496
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,479
trying to get seen,
waiting outside offices.

497
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,279
Somehow gripping
because they're showing
the invention.

498
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,079
We know it will work, we've seen...

499
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,519
Of course, partly because
we're watching the film,

500
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359
but we know,
we've seen he's made it work,
we're backing him,

501
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,239
the humble guy
up against the ministry.

502
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,679
And then it flips at the moment
that he meets Gibson

503
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,999
and it starts to transition
into a heroic men on a mission movie

504
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,519
where Gibson's
putting together the team

505
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,039
and off they're going on the heist
sort of film.

506
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,959
And the crossover
is very, very gentle,

507
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,520
it doesn't quickly stop
and then you go over
to the air crew.

508
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,599
Gibson is with Wallis
during the test runs,

509
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,959
Gibson is backing Wallis.

510
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,759
I mean,
Gibson takes the whole process
very personally

511
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,479
and they work together
and they appear to like each other,

512
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,919
so it's a very...

513
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,279
It's about these two men,
the moment they meet,

514
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,519
how they work together

515
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,799
and then, if you like,
Wallis hands over the baton
of this mission

516
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,199
to the heroic pilot

517
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,399
and then all he can do
is pace and wait.

518
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,759
The camera drifts around the rooms
filled with British and Australian
aircrews,

519
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,639
capturing entire lives
in the accumulation
of pre-flight rituals.

520
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,160
Putting on a brave face
takes on a universe of meanings.

521
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,679
The detail of flying
resonates with the pragmatic courage
it takes to get into the air

522
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560
against a barrage of flak.

523
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,799
And that is Robert Shaw
as Gibson's copilot,

524
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Flight Sergeant John Pulford.

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,679
Shaw was a friend of Redgrave's

526
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,280
and Anderson was struck by how much
he too resembled the real man.

527
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,799
Virtually the entire cast
and surely most of the crew

528
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360
came with first-hand experience
of the war.

529
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,199
This lent the film
an invaluable integrity.

530
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,919
They were not only honouring the men
of the mission

531
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,639
but their own comrades.

532
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,999
There is something enormously moving

533
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240
about the way Todd
delivers Gibson's casual instruction

534
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,479
for the men to begin their mission.

535
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,639
"Come on, then."

536
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,160
(TENSE MUSIC)

537
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,760
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

538
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,119
One of the things
that Anderson does really well

539
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:19,879
is to take this really, really
big story and personalise it.

540
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,799
He REALLY gets into
intimate details of the characters

541
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,479
and he does this
by looking at them individually

542
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,519
and also in...

543
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,960
In groups.

544
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,599
One of the things
that Anderson is really good at

545
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,079
is showing how the pilots
prepare themselves
before this mission

546
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,720
which is almost suicidal...

547
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200
And it's the calmness,
it is the calm before the storm.

548
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,239
The two Australian pilots,
for example, who are sharing a room,

549
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,919
they're sort of reading magazines

550
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,719
and then just throw them
across the room to each other
to sort of share their mags.

551
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,359
There's a little bit of jazz
playing in the background.

552
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,479
They could be just waiting
for their girlfriends to arrive.

553
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,399
Another man
is just writing a letter,

554
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,799
um, as many of them would have done,

555
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,719
and then he starts
winding his clock,

556
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,519
which he just leaves on his dresser.

557
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,919
There's even somebody who, actually,

558
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360
just in fact when they're out,
sort of waiting to be picked up,

559
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
have a small game of cricket.

560
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,799
You know, and all of these things,

561
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,679
all of these things
show a relative normality,

562
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,839
a relative
sort of almost Zen kind of piece

563
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480
before this mighty storm
that's approaching.

564
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,399
And I think that
that is really important

565
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,119
because what happens then
and what Anderson does brilliantly

566
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:46,159
is to show exactly the same rooms
afterwards,

567
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,680
empty.

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,439
And you understand,

569
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,519
you feel the cost
without having to show people
being killed.

570
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,039
You see the emptiness
and the vacancy

571
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,999
of where a human being once was.

572
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,919
Anderson approached the film
with a documentary clarity,

573
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,919
consciously shooting
in a sober black and white

574
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,239
in order to incorporate real footage
of the test runs

575
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,240
as well as shots
of the conveniently flooded
Ruhr Valley of 1955.

576
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,439
That is the real RAF Scampton
where the 617 was based.

577
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,279
Only the scene of Gibson
devising the targeting spotlights

578
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,200
while watching dancing girls
is a delightfully cinematic addition
to history.

579
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,799
(UPBEAT MUSIC)

580
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080
(CONTINUES)

581
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,160
(DRONING)

582
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,279
Up a bit... A bit more.

583
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,399
Now hold it!

584
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,600
That's too much!

585
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Down, down...

586
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Now hold it now! Fine!

587
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,279
For the incredible shots
of their four Avro Lancasters

588
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,719
pirouetting over Lake Windermere
and Derwent Reservoir,

589
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,319
which stood in
for the German reservoirs,

590
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,039
real-life bomber pilots
had to fly as low as 30 feet
above the water.

591
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,960
It was the only way
for the perilous flying
to be effective on camera.

592
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,119
Meanwhile, a full-scale fuselage
was built on a gimbal

593
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,719
to bank and tilt
against back projection

594
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,919
with the actors
stoically at the controls.

595
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
So, let's talk about the realism
of the flying

596
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,839
because I think
everyone remembers the model work

597
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,119
and they remember also the music,
of course,

598
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,839
but the aerial photography
in The Dam Busters is peerless,

599
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,879
isn't it?

600
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,959
Yes, by the time the film was made
the Lancaster Bomber
had been retired by the RAF.

601
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,639
They still had a number mothballed
and they were...

602
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,159
The RAF lent them to the production

603
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,519
for what I think in today's terms
would be roughly £1.5 million!

604
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,559
So, it was...

605
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,719
You know, it was a publicity film
for the RAF,

606
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,839
but they were
still going to get their money!

607
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,079
And the bomber,

608
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,959
the Lancaster Bomber
had been replaced

609
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,919
by something called
the Lincoln Bomber,

610
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,679
which had a lot of similarities
in the way it was flown,

611
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,439
so the pilots for the Lincoln
were also allowed to fly
for the film.

612
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,599
So, they had three Lancasters
to represent the bombers

613
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,599
and one Lancaster to do the filming.

614
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,079
I mean, funnily enough,

615
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,560
the raid itself required the bombers
to fly at 60 feet above the water.

616
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,159
The filmmakers, when they saw
the Lancasters at 60 feet,

617
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720
it actually didn't look
that dramatic to them

618
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,519
so they asked the Lancasters
to fly lower

619
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,999
at 40 feet above the water!

620
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,399
Wasn't it 30 feet?
I think they came down to 30 feet!

621
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,919
Yeah, they started at 40
and then they went down to 30,

622
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,479
to the point where sometimes
the propellers were actually almost
doing water spouts on the lakes

623
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,519
as they went over!

624
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,919
At one point, the pilot said,

625
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,999
"Well, what happens
if we crash and die?"

626
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,679
And they said, "Oh, well,
we probably won't do the film!"

627
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,119
So, it was hardly reassuring!

628
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,719
When you see the film,
there are two dams they go into,

629
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,559
which are represented
by two actual dams
in the Lake District,

630
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,559
two actual areas
in the Lake District,

631
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,439
one of which was as dangerous
to fly down as the film depicts

632
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,399
and the pilots were terrified
when they were flying down there

633
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,959
because to pull up in time
was GENUINELY dangerous!

634
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,479
So, they were flying
WAY beyond the extremes
for these aircraft!

635
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,240
They were flying at a level
that Guy Gibson wasn't flying!

636
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,639
The model work,

637
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,119
including a 40-foot dam
built at Elstree
to crack like piecrust,

638
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,519
was done before the main shoot

639
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,720
so that the aerial shots
could build towards
a specific climax.

640
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,319
Famously, the plunging Lancasters

641
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,679
were the inspiration
for the Death Star trench run

642
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,239
in George Lucas'
original Star Wars.

643
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,519
Lucas even employed Gill Taylor,

644
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,479
who had masterminded
the special effects photography

645
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,999
on The Dam Busters.

646
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,160
(DRONING)

647
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Down, down, down, down...

648
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,919
Down...

649
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,759
We're too high!
Down...

650
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,839
We're too high, skipper,
we won't make it!

651
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Steady... Hold it there!

652
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,479
It's too late, skipper,
it's too late!

653
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,000
(ROARING)

654
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:30,720
(JOYFUL MUSIC)

655
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:42,120
(FADES)

656
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:46,439
Eric Coates had no interest
in writing music for film,

657
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,879
which is exactly
what he told the producer

658
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,559
but Robert Clark
wouldn't take no for an answer,

659
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,599
convincing the classical composer

660
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,319
this was
a matter of honouring history

661
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,240
at which point Coates mentioned
he had written the perfect piece
only the day before!

662
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:07,880
The stirring, patriotic, legendary
Dam Busters March
has never been matched.

663
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,159
Indeed, it has become
the unofficial anthem
for the Royal Air Force.

664
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,359
The story goes

665
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,319
that he was experimenting
with Elgar-style marches.

666
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,759
He wanted to do something
in the form of Elgar

667
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,279
and when he was approached to write
the score for The Dam Busters,

668
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,719
he turned it down
because he wasn't interested
in film music,

669
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,920
he really wasn't...

670
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,319
However, when he was told that this
was a film of national significance

671
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,359
and importance,

672
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,359
he sort of changed his mind
and he started to work
and then he...

673
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,799
He thought,
"I have something that might work!"

674
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Which was The Dam Busters March,

675
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,039
to all intents and purposes
which he'd already written.

676
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,760
It was his sort of tribute to Elgar.

677
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,919
They brought that in.

678
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Clearly,
it was absolutely perfect for it!

679
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,599
He didn't want to write
too much of the rest of the music

680
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,679
and, in fact,
Leighton Lucas wrote a great deal
of the other music, such that it is,

681
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,279
incidental music
and things like that.

682
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,640
What's fascinating
is for a piece of music

683
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,119
which is now SO famous

684
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,719
and is, you know,
in the repertoire
of every military band

685
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,239
that ever existed,

686
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,479
especially during the flypasts
on the queen's birthday,

687
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,639
things like that...

688
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,359
Is that it's used
fairly infrequently in the film.

689
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,199
In fact,
the most significant part of it

690
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,479
is NOTHING to do with the flying,

691
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,839
it's to do when they're waiting
to get into the lorries

692
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,119
to take them to the Bombers.

693
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
It's kind of ironic really, though,
isn't it?

694
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,559
It's become triumphal,

695
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,359
yet, actually,
if you watch the film,

696
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,399
that's not kind of the message
of the film.

697
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,039
The film is very poignant
and very considered.

698
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,879
I mean, it takes a lot of unpacking,
I think,

699
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,919
that whole thing.

700
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,319
There's something about the film
that is...

701
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,439
It's a very un-triumphant movie,

702
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,920
it's a very sorrowful movie
towards the end.

703
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,999
It's about a mission

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,080
that we're not entirely certain
was as successful
as it was intended to be

705
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,879
and yet the music,

706
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,479
it's become this symbol
of sort of a jingoistic patriotism

707
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,759
which you think that
almost no one involved
in any part of that

708
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,839
would have had any interest in,
really!

709
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,079
There was a...

710
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,319
One of the original pilots
was on set during filming

711
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,559
and he said, at one point,

712
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,999
"I think you're making
a bit too much of this mission,
we just did our job!"

713
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,119
No one at any point
saw this as being this symbol
of jingoistic patriotism

714
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,119
but the music itself has created
this sort of mythical power

715
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,039
which I think, actually,
almost no one would have wanted,

716
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,080
in a strange way.

717
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,799
The power of The Dam Busters
lies in what is UNSAID.

718
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,199
So much of the story
is told in uncomplaining faces.

719
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,999
The lower half of his face
concealed beneath an oxygen mask,

720
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Todd works wonders
with only his eyes

721
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,959
as he receives news
of the planes that have gone down.

722
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,559
Redgrave's Wallis
is quietly devastated

723
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,880
at the human cost of his great idea.

724
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,519
Rather than jingoism,

725
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,679
Anderson concludes
on a note of great solemnity,

726
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,199
the camera steadily watching
the returning hero Todd
walk into the distance,

727
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,920
his first duty being to write
to the families of the fallen.

728
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,599
Anderson, I think,
does an extraordinary job
of communicating what it's like

729
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,879
to be on board,

730
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,359
and more power to Richard Todd

731
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,479
because he does so much acting
with his eyes,

732
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,399
because his face is covered
with a mask,

733
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,159
and still conveys
great emotion and great courage

734
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,839
with very minimal gestures!

735
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,599
There is a particular point
where the three wings of the raid

736
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,439
go over the coast

737
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,479
and each...

738
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,079
The captain of each of those wings
says, "Enemy coast ahead!"

739
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,519
And at that point all of the stars
put masks across their faces

740
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,079
and from then on you don't...

741
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,639
All you've got is your eyes!

742
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,319
And they're conveying everything
from their terror

743
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,159
to their lack of understanding...

744
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,479
People keep popping up
and popping down,

745
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,999
it's a very active process!

746
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,999
But there's...
You can't see their faces!

747
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,039
Imagine that now,

748
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,919
that you would show
the stars of the film

749
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,879
but they would be completely hidden
from the audience's view!

750
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,199
It's a very, very,
very powerfully done
piece of acting by everybody.

751
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Not just Richard Todd,
but all of the actors,

752
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,000
all of the bomb crew managed
to bring us on board with them!

753
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,439
Is it true? All those fellows lost?

754
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,679
Only two aircraft
went down in the attacks,

755
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,679
that was Hopgood's over the Mohne
and Maudslay's over the Eder.

756
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,999
Astell got it
soon after crossing the coast

757
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080
and Dinghy Young
was shot down over the sea
on his way home.

758
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,959
And the rest we don't know about...

759
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,239
They've been calling them
since midnight
but they haven't answered.

760
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,440
The flak was bad,
worse than I expected.

761
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,720
Fifty-six men...

762
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,399
If I had known
it was going to be like this, I...

763
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,800
I'd never have started it.

764
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,959
Now, you mustn't think that way.

765
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,679
If all these fellows
had known from the beginning
they wouldn't be coming back,

766
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,479
they'd have gone for it
just the same.

767
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,079
Isn't a single one of them
would've dropped out,
I knew them all, that's true.

768
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,640
It's a REAL downbeat ending

769
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,839
but what it does is it shows...

770
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,119
And in fact, Richard Todd has said
that that was the hardest scene
for him to do

771
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,959
and as he's walking away
he was crying

772
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,159
because, of course,

773
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,399
as somebody who had been in the war
himself,

774
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,839
had been a captain,
parachute regiment,

775
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,959
he had himself
had to have written those letters

776
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:27,679
so he knew EXACTLY
what was going through the mind
of Guy Gibson

777
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,279
at that time

778
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,679
and I think that
that is achingly beautiful,

779
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,559
a wounding ending to the movie,

780
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,319
which is as significant
as it could possibly be.

781
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,199
Effecting the perfect balance
of patriotism and poignancy

782
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,639
for an audience
still nursing the wounds
of World War Two,

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,199
The Dam Busters became
the biggest British film of 1955.

784
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,559
The scope of the production
marks it out as a blockbuster
of its day

785
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,640
and it garnered an Oscar nomination
for its special effects.

786
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,359
But what endures
is its breathtaking detail...

787
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,360
It was a revelation for the viewer.

788
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,599
So, tell me,

789
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,559
what became of both
Guy Gibson and Barnes Wallis?

790
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759
You know, after the mission?

791
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,519
Well, Guy Gibson
went on a large publicity tour
of the United States

792
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,679
and spent a long time out there
sort of drumming up interest
in the idea of bombing,

793
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,319
in the British war effort.

794
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719
He became frustrated, he came back

795
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,479
and he then wanted
to get back into action

796
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,719
so he joined a Mosquito Squadron.

797
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,359
It was a plane
he was not experienced in.

798
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,399
He did...

799
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,439
Led a mission he was not
necessarily experienced to lead

800
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,679
and it is not certain
whether he was shot down

801
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,479
or whether he actually
ran out of fuel

802
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,719
because the Mosquito
had these two fuel tanks.

803
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,599
They found his plane
many years later
buried underground

804
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,079
and it's possible
that he just was not...

805
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,199
You know, he wanted to win,
he wanted to fight

806
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,879
and he wasn't ready for that plane,

807
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,039
which is quite heartbreaking,
in a way,

808
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,239
if you think...

809
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,879
The idea that at the end
he died in the air

810
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,759
but not in the way
that he would have wanted to,
who knows...

811
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,959
Barnes Wallis
then went on inventing.

812
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,719
I mean, he went on inventing
till his retirement in 1971.

813
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,039
He contributed to designs
that led to Concorde.

814
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,119
He was...

815
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,799
He never produced anything
as epoch-making as the bouncing bomb

816
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,519
but his bombing ideas
did lead to significant
bunker-busting bombs.

817
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,079
He probably has more influence
on warfare

818
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,639
than he would like to admit.

819
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,639
Certainly, after the raid,

820
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,679
when he saw the human cost,

821
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,519
he was so horrified
that he refused to let a test pilot
into any of his inventions

822
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,239
until it had been
very, very significantly tested
by models.

823
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,359
He was terrified of losing
a single other pilot's life.

824
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,119
The Dam Busters is not simply
a captivating men on a mission
movie

825
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,599
or an account
of great British guile

826
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,799
or, for that matter,

827
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,879
a shining example of the ingenuity
of British filmmaking in the '50s

828
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,239
in the quiet dedication
of these men,

829
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,319
led by Wallis and Gibson,

830
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,439
but Anderson's objective
was to document a history
that had been mythologised.

831
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,679
Remarkably, in 1955,

832
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,600
there were elements
of Operation Chastise
that were still classified.

833
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,359
The fact that the bombs
spun backwards for stability

834
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,039
had to be covered up
in the real footage.

835
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,399
Nevertheless,

836
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,959
the film stands
as the defining testament

837
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,800
to the achievements
of two remarkable men.

838
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,119
Aren't you going to turn in, Gibby?

839
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,959
No, I...
I have to write some letters first.

840
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,760
(BIRDS CHIRPING IN DISTANCE)

841
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,999
(TENDER MUSIC)

842
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,840
(CONTINUES)

843
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,320
(FADES)

844
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,960
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